A||||5||d1734||Don't let Biotest become another MuscleTech|||||| Z||000000||d1734||04-01-2000||11:34 AM||d1734@yahoo.com||there is too much of a bandwagon with Biotest right now. sure some of the supplements are not bad. the problem is they are overpriced and overhyped. i simply cannot stand some of the comments Biotest has made. i would say their claims of Neurogain turning you into a "neutered house cat" is unfounded. sure, that is even more expensive than powerdrive, but that is an unreasonable statement to make. on Usenet quite a few real world experts (not the imposters, multiple alias, etc) think they are full of crap. many of the tribex studies were misleading, and demands have been made for them to back off of their claims. maybe that is the true reason for the "new and improved" version. they know they have to put up or shutup.

the androsol hype sickens me. if you think it will feel like a steroid, have fun being scammed. for all we know the pre-order deal is just another hype gimmick. is it really the "extraordinary demand"?

they also bashed Para Deca in some of the reader mail. sure, the syringe that comes with it redefines the term "cheesy", but it looks very impressive on paper, although overpriced.

im currently taking tribex, but i made sure to only get 1 bottle (not from their site, you could buy 1 here at the same price as getting 3 bottles at Biotest site) so i can see if it works or not. i am by no means conviced so far. im not a good subject because i am barely weight training due to cubital tunnel syndrome in my right elbow. i do however do all out sprints and pylometrics.

my point is, dont jump on the bandwagon just yet. the day i find a totally reliable company is the day i get struck by lightning on a sunny day. they all have positives, they all have flaws. its great to believe in supplements, but don't forget to talk even more about what we find are scams and rip offs.

keep it real people, later.||24.31.114.84||reg|| Z||000001||BackDoc||04-01-2000||11:41 AM||||Yeah, they are really getting on my last nerve. I really like their MD6 and Methoxy-7, but the way they are promoting their androsol is pretty sorry. I used to really be a big advocate for their company, but some recent comments and revealings has made me take the same position as you...that the perfect company doesn't exist. Oh well, it's back to Ultimate Orange. Anyhow, it works better than 99.9% of any other supplements out there.
Later||63.20.4.70||reg|| Z||000002||d1734||04-01-2000||04:31 PM||d1734@yahoo.com||glad to hear you feel the same way. i still will say they aren't half as shady as 99% of the other companies, its just in this industry thats not saying much.||24.31.114.84||reg|| Z||000003||BackDoc||04-01-2000||11:23 PM||||Totally agree. I'll always like their MD6 and continue to use it as long as it works. I personally think it's the best legal fat burner out there. I appreciate that product very much. But you're right, it's high time the supplement industry begin policing itself instead of so many supp companies just ripping off the public.
Just for laughs---I wouldn't feed any Joe Weider product to my worst dog. I can hardly believe they make any more money since their products are so outdated.
Take it easy.||63.20.6.222||reg|| Z||000004||BallBuster||04-02-2000||10:52 PM||||Its good to see that there are some independent thinkers here. I used to love the site last year when they were not just trying to sell products. Its not even worth the trouble of asking them a question about a product anymore. The response will be "Biotest is great, everything else sucks." It is depressing to see them constantly bash every other product and magazine. Search their site for info on Cytodyne products. Its interesting to see that despite having some of the highest quality products on the market and possibly the most popular fat burner ever, everyone at t-mag bashes the hell out of every one of their products by either calling it shit, or suggesting something else as a replacement. ||152.173.148.27||reg|| Z||000005||BackDoc||04-03-2000||12:49 AM||||I've noticed that too! Good point!||63.22.66.94||reg||