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Z||000001||BackDoc||03-09-2000||10:44 PM||||Has she tried Adipokinetix? I really like this product for cutting fat weight. I think it could be the first of the next generation of fat burners. It contains:
Norephedrine
Yohimbine
Caffeine
My body didn't get used to it even after about 6 weeks of taking it daily, whereas, with the hydroxycut and xenedrine my body got used to it after only about 2 weeks.
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Z||000002||BuffEnuf||03-10-2000||08:20 AM||geneticfreak2000@cs.com||BackDoc...hmmmmmmm I never heard of that. Is that a supplement? Who makes it and is that the name that it goes under?
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Z||000003||decadon||03-10-2000||08:42 AM||||backdoc and buff...I totally agree that adipokinetix is a great fat burner..but I have seen the MD6 from biotest online and for the price it has much more...it has everything in adipo plus guggulsterones and tyrosine..what else could you ask for...I got md6 for 26.59 at my local musclemag...www.musclemagnepa.com and get their phone number and order...they will beat any prices for any supplements,,,,,good luck guys....by the way syntrax is coming out with something new called lipokinetix...to get more info go to www.syntrax.com
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Z||000004||BackDoc||03-10-2000||12:39 PM||||I think the MD6 is pretty good especially at the price. I like it very much because of the addition of Alpha Lipoic Acid which is going to be a great benefit for lowering insulin resistance (insulin resistance is often the reason why many people cannot seem to lose weight, which I've had to deal with personally---those last 5 or 10 lbs didn't come off until I supplemented alpha lipoic acid before meals).
The only issue I have with the MD6 is that it contains both guggul and yohimbine, which I have heard require different enzymes that if both are present in the stomach inactivate each other. But I have not seen anything scientific explaining this theory, so it could be heresay. I think MD6 is a fine product and would use it without any worries.
I wouldn't take Lipokinetix because it contains sodium usniate which has been shown to be toxic to certain cell components. The research also suggests that it may cause some long term damage to hip bones as well and I don't like the sound of that. If you want to see a pretty good article about the dangers and risks of Sodium Usniate, check out the website www.testosterone.net and type the word usnic in the search box and click on the results. I think that is the only Syntrax product that I wouldn't use.||63.20.4.97||reg||
Z||000006||decadon||03-11-2000||04:13 AM||||Backdoc..this is straight from testosterone.net...they might agree with you...if you are not serious about fat loss..I would not use this supplement....I would definitely diet..exercise more cardio..then use md6 or adipokinetix....then move on to triatricol or lipokinetix type stuff....or even straight dnp
What the Hell's Wrong With Derek (Syntrax)?
Why in the world is Derek coming out with his version of usnic acid? Is he determined to undermine the health of the unknowing and ignorant people? I'm sure that housewives and average Joes everywhere who aren't T-mag readers will surely succumb to the health problems caused by Lipokinetix. Here's what's posted on their site about it:
Only Lipokinetix contains the ultra-potent dietary nutrients diiodothyronine and sodium usniate. By modifying a process in the body called oxidative phosphorylation, these compounds actually mimic exercise in some very important ways and support an increased metabolic rate better than anything else ever developed.
Lipokinetix is the ideal supplement for individuals on a program to become lean and lose unwanted adipose tissue. Do not combine with any other fat-burner, except Guggulbolic. Coming in March—reserve your bottle today! (Not available in Ohio, Texas, or Nebraska.)
Gimme a break! I hope that you can pass this info along to the unknowledgable ones.
Enrage
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Z||000007||decadon||03-11-2000||04:22 AM||||oh yeah as far as guggul and yohimbine...I think that yohimbine is small enough that is doesn't have any enzymes that deal with it in the stomack...it works to release fatty acids from adipose tissue....guggul is supposed to support good thyroid production...so I don't think that what you heard is right...plus I wouldn't doubt anything that poliquin would be involved with
..I would like to hear more feedback...lets get to the bottom of this backdoc...
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Z||000008||BackDoc||03-11-2000||02:58 PM||||I agree with the commentary. There is a research project that made direct correllation of usnic acid and interference with RNA genetics---a very bad situation that could have serious consequences! The research indicates that usnic acid slows down bone growth in the femur and in liver cells within 1-3 days following ingestion. This is pretty scary.
The report can be viewed by going to the PubMed website which has a lot of research abstracts available: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
once there, type in the search box:
biochemical effects of usnic acid
That should bring up the research project I've mentioned above.||63.20.4.240||reg||
Z||000009||BackDoc||03-11-2000||03:02 PM||||correction, go to: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/
and then type in: biochemical effects of usnic acid
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Z||000010||G||03-12-2000||05:37 AM||||I would suggest that it has something to do with her diet, if she is taking all of those supplements and not losing weight I'm shocked, she may need appetite suppresents and drink more water!!! also caffeine pills can go along way in reducing fat storage, I suggest that she does most of her exercise in the morning on an empty stomach and pop down all of her supps plus 400mg of caffeine||203.29.91.69||reg||