A||||6||rock||WHO HERE USES PROHORMONES?|||||| Z||000000||rock||02-19-2000||04:39 PM||||All id like to say is that, I am 17 years old, fully grown, with a beard..i wnat to use 4-androdiol, with 19-norandrodione....to prevent estrogen..i am going to stack chrysin with saw palmetto....please give me some information when and how much i should use for some descent gains...i know i am 2 young...but you have to do when you have to do to get gains fast....dont just reply and only say i am 2 young..you can say that but can you answer my question on how much and when should i use these supplemtns for gains..thank you||63.28.162.20||reg|| Z||000001||bigdog37||02-19-2000||08:29 PM||||your not too young to use prohormones just to young to use the real stuff, i think you don't need to waste your money on these supplements. a great sound diet and using protien, creatine and vitamins will get you further than these prohormones will. its easy to read the articles in the magazines and think that these supplements really work because vince taylor says he uses them, he doesn't the (prohormones) he takes are extremely more powerful. get the right foods, sleep, the right training and supplement smart and the rest of it will take care oof itself||209.156.135.234||reg|| Z||000002||RideHard||02-19-2000||09:10 PM||ridehard@hushmail.com||Prohormones are probably a waste of money for someone at your age,(or any age for that matter). You will get way better results with 1-2 grams of protein per pound of body weight and creatine than you will any pro-hormones.
I know this isnt that answer you want hear but believe me, the andro products will just shunt your natural production of Testosterone. All andro products untilize enzymes to convert and at your age your body is using those completely already.

If you are like I was at your age and must try them anyways, I recommend that you try 4AD androdoil and 4AD nor-androdoil. They seem to be the most effective. Dosage depends on how your going to take them, orally, sublingely. Absorbtion of these products is horribly low. There is a company selling a liquid version that supposidly absorbs 300% better than other andro products. VPX Sports, called Paradeca, I havent heard any feedback on this product but if it works the way they claim it does, it might be your best bet.

Chysin is a good idea a couple weeks into your cycle. But don't expect mircles and don't be sad when you realize your money would have been better spent on protein and creatine.

Go Big-||209.112.133.139||reg|| Z||000003||LV 426||02-19-2000||10:35 PM||canven@hotmail.com||how tall are you???
i do not have any experience with pro-hormones. but from what i've read they aromatize into estrogen freely,and again
from what i've read estrogen effects height
i'm only answering this to point you in a
research direction. read as much as you can
before making any choices.
remember its your body--you have live with
it for the rest of YOUR life
||142.194.191.27||reg|| Z||000004||grosso||03-06-2000||07:44 AM||||Just go in : http://www.ast-ss.com/ http://www.affordablesupplements.com/
There are a lot of info on products and a lot of faq !!! BUMP !||195.212.29.116||reg|| Z||000005||qui||03-06-2000||09:40 AM||qui@iobox.fi||We have a couple fellows working within our lab (yes, we actually work in a lab) who lift and since we are able to do a once-weekly blood draw, we did our own unscientific test (one guy benches 300 lbs, the other is a couch potato) for a 60-day period using LPJ Research prohormones (Cyclodiol, etc)

Both fellow had Estradiol levels almost double at the end of the 60-days, SHBG elevated, LH lowered and T values (both free and total) dropped.

It took another 60-days after they stopped to get the numbers "back to pre-testing" values.

Both persons are 30+ years old.||209.154.12.69||reg|| Z||000006||grosso||03-08-2000||08:07 AM||||bump||195.212.29.18||reg||