{"id":2283,"date":"2014-05-12T17:49:31","date_gmt":"2015-06-06T17:28:18","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2015-12-14T15:55:06","modified_gmt":"2015-12-14T20:55:06","slug":"aromasin-and-tamoxifen-post-cycle","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.elitefitness.com\/articles\/aromasin-and-tamoxifen-post-cycle\/","title":{"rendered":"Aromasin and Tamoxifen&#8230; Getting Off A Steroid Cycle"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[sc:masthead-std ]<br \/>\n[sc:salutation-std ]<\/p>\n<p>Coming off a steroid cycle is a bitch. Nothing new about that. When  you're on the juice, you look great, feel great, you're strong as an ox,  and you're usually horny as a mother-f#cker! But, alas, all good things  eventually must come to an end and a steroid cycle is no different.<\/p>\n<p>But,  bodybuilders have known for a long time that a good post-cycle protocol  can make the transition back to being natural a lot easier. And it can  help you keep your muscle gains and bring your natural testosterone  levels back to where they were before your cycle. Good post cycle  therapy can also be used to keep cycle related estrogen levels in check  and prevent all the nasty estrogen related side effects.<\/p>\n<p>In this week's EliteFitness.com news  we share some of the benefits of an often overlooked post-cycle  drug and powerful anti-estrogen - Aromasin. We'll also share with you how  to combine it with the old favorite Nolvadex for even better  gains-keeping results!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rationale for the Use of Aromasin with Tamoxifen (Nolvadex) During Post Cycle Therapy<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Aromasin (Exemestane) is one of those weird compounds that nobody really knows  what to do with. What we generally hear about it makes it very  uninteresting&hellip; It&rsquo;s a third generation Aromatase Inhibitor (AI) just  like Anastrozole and Femera (Letrozole). Both of those two drugs are  very efficient at stopping the conversion of androgens into estrogen,  and since we have them, why bother with Aromasin?  It&rsquo;s a little harder to get than the other two commonly used aromatase  inhibitors, because it&rsquo;s not in high demand, and there&rsquo;s never been a  readily apparent advantage to using it.<\/p>\n<p>And I mean&hellip; lets face it: It&rsquo;s awkward-sounding. Aromasin doesn&rsquo;t have much of a ring to it, and exemestane is even worse.  Anastrozole has a bunch of cool abbreviations (&quot;A-dex&quot; or just &lsquo;dex) and  even Letrozole is just &quot;Letro&quot; to most people. Where&rsquo;s the cool  nickname for Aromasin (exemestane)? A-Sin? E-Stane? It just doesn&rsquo;t work. It&rsquo;s the black  sheep of AIs. And why do we even need it when we have Letrozole, which  is by far the most efficient AI for stopping aromatization (the process  by which your body converts testosterone into estrogen)? Letro can  reduce estrogen levels by 98% or greater; clinically a dose as low as  100mcgs has been shown to provide maximum aromatase inhibition (2)!<\/p>\n<p>So  why would we need any other AIs? Well, first of all, estrogen is  necessary for healthy joints (3) as well as a healthy immune system (4).  So getting rid of 98% of the estrogen in your body for an extended  period of time may not be the best of ideas. This may be useful on an  extreme cutting cycle, leading up to a bodybuilding contest, or if you  are particularly prone to gyno, but certainly can&rsquo;t be used safely for  extended periods of time without compromising your joints and immune  system.<\/p>\n<p>That leaves us with Anastrozole, which isn&rsquo;t as potent as  Letrozole, but at .5mgs\/day will still get rid of around half (50%) of  the estrogen in your body. Problem solved, right? Use Anastrozole on  your typical cycles, and if you are very prone to gyno or are getting  ready for a contest, use Letro.<\/p>\n<p>But what about Post Cycle Therapy (PCT)?<\/p>\n<p>I think at this point most people are sold on the use of Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) instead of Clomid for post cycle therapy (PCT),  since both compete estrogen at the receptor site, both increase serum  test levels, and both drugs may also alter blood lipid profiles  favorably (6). But since 20mgs of Tamoxifen is equal to 150mgs of clomid  for purposes of testosterone elevation, FSH and LH, but Tamoxifen  doesn&rsquo;t decrease the LH response to LHRH (6) I think most people agree  to Nolvadex&rsquo;s superiority for PCT.<\/p>\n<p>Aromasin with Nolvadex<\/p>\n<p>I&rsquo;ve always been in favor of using Nolvadex during PCT, along with an AI, because reducing estrogen levels has been  positively correlated with an increase in testosterone (7) so in my  mind, it&rsquo;s be beneficial to increase testosterone by as many mechanisms  as possible while trying to recover your endogenous testosterone levels  after a cycle. SO which AI do we use? Letro or A-dex? Well, why don&rsquo;t we  just keep using whichever one we used during the cycle, and add in some Nolvadex? Unfortunately, Nolvadex will significantly reduce the blood plasma levels of both Letrozole as  well as Anastrozole (8). So if we choose to use one of them with our Nolvadex on PCT, we&rsquo;re throwing away a bit of money as the Nolvadex will be reducing their effectiveness.<\/p>\n<p>This, of course, is where Aromasin comes in, at 20-25mgs\/day.<\/p>\n<p>Aromasin,  at that dose, will raise your testosterone levels by about 60%, and  also help out your free to bound testosterone ratio by lowering levels  of Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG), by about 20% (12)&hellip; SHBG is that  nasty enzyme that binds to testosterone and renders it useless for  building muscle. But what about using it along with Nolvadex for PCT?<\/p>\n<p>Difference Between Type-I and Type-II Aromatase Inhibitors<\/p>\n<p>To understand why Aromasin may be useful in conjunction with Nolvadex while both Letro and A-dex suffer reduced effectiveness, we&rsquo;ll need to  first understand the differences between a Type-I and Type-II Aromatase  Inhibitor. Type I inhibitors (like Aromasin)  are actually steroidal compounds, while type II inhibitors (like Letro  and A-dex) are non-steroidal drugs. Hence, androgenic side effects are  very possible with Type-I AIs, and they should probably be avoided by  women. Of course, there are some similarities between the two types of  AIs&hellip;both type I &amp; type II AIs mimic normal substrates (essentially  androgens), allowing them to compete with the substrate for access to  the binding site on the aromatase enzyme. After this binding, the next  step is where things differ greatly for the two different types of AI&rsquo;s.  In the case of a type-I AI, the noncompetitive inhibitor will bind, and  the enzyme initiates a sequence of hydroxylation; this hydroxylation  produces an unbreakable covalent bond between the inhibitor and the  enzyme protein. Now, enzyme activity is permanently blocked; even if all  unattached inhibitor is removed. Aromatase enzyme activity can only be  restored by new enzyme synthesis. Now, on the other hand, competitive  inhibitors, called type II AI&rsquo;s, reversibly bind to the active enzyme  site, and one of two things can happen:<\/p>\n<p>1.) either no enzyme activity is triggered or .<\/p>\n<p>2.) the enzyme is somehow triggered without effect. The type II  inhibitor can now actually disassociate from the binding site,  eventually allowing renewed competition between the inhibitor and the  substrate for binding to the site. This means that the effectiveness of  competitive aromatase inhibitors depends on the relative concentrations  and affinities of both the inhibitor and the substrate, while this is  not so for noncompetitive inhibitors. Aromasin is a type-I inhibitor, meaning that once it has done its job, and  deactivated the aromatase enzyme, we don&rsquo;t need it anymore. Letrozole  and Anastrozole actually need to remain present to continue their  effects. This is possibly why Nolvadex does not alter the pharmacokinetics of Aromasin (11).<\/p>\n<p>Conclusion<\/p>\n<p>Before we close the book on Aromasin,  it&rsquo;s worth noting that you can (and should) still use one of the  non-steroidal AIs during your cycle to reduce estrogen, if necessary.  When you are ready for PCT, you can then switch over to Aromasin and still experience the full effects of an AI, since there is no  cross-over tolerance experienced between steroidal and non-steroidal AIs  (9). Since Aromasin is about 65% efficient at suppressing estrogen (10), it&rsquo;s certainly a  very powerful agent, especially considering you won&rsquo;t experience reduced  effectiveness because of your concurrent use of Nolvadex or from any sort of tolerance developed by using other AIs on your  cycle(9). There is also a decent amount of preclinical data suggesting  that Aromasin has a beneficial effect on bone mineral metabolism that is not seen  with non-steroidal agents, and it may also have beneficial effects on  lipid metabolism that are not found in the non-steroidal Letro and A-dex  (9).<\/p>\n<p>Finally, as we&rsquo;re going to be using Nolvadex for PCT anyway, and we ought to be using an AI with it for maximum recovery&hellip; I think Aromasin- considering it&rsquo;s compatibility with Nolvadex and beneficial effects on bone mineral content and lipid profile, has  finally stopped being the black sheep of AIs and found a home in our  cycles.<\/p>\n<p><!-- InstanceEndEditable --><br \/>\n[sc:signoff-std]<\/p>\n<table width=\"95%\" border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"10\" cellspacing=\"0\" style=\"margin: auto;\">\n<tr>\n<td>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.elitefitness.com\/amember\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/\/www.elitefitness.com\/images\/bodybuilder\/morph1sale.jpg\" alt=\"Take 25% off every e-book and Platinum Membership when you order and use coupon code backinthegame\" width=\"278\" height=\"303\" style=\"border: 1px; float: right;\" \/><\/a>Get back in the game this fall with a huge 25% savings off every <a href=\"https:\/\/www.elitefitness.com\/amember\" target=\"_blank\">bodybuilding e-book<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.elitefitness.com\/amember\/order.php?price_group=-5\" target=\"_blank\">Consultation Program<\/a>, and <a href=\"\/\/www.elitefitness.com\/reports\/platinum\" target=\"_blank\">Platinum Membership<\/a> that we sell! <\/p>\n<p> This is the fastest shortcut to building obscene amounts of MUSCLE!<\/h3>\n<h3>Now and until the end of the week, take and extra 25% off every e-book and Platinum Membership when you place an order and use coupon code - <em><strong>backinthegame<\/strong><\/em> - when you order in the next 7 days!<\/p>\n<p>Here's a link to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.elitefitness.com\/amember\/\" target=\"_blank\">check out all the anabolic goodness in the EF Store<\/a>!<\/h3>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<h3>Just paste the code - <em><strong>backinthegame<\/strong><\/em> - in the order page in the box that looks like this:<\/h3>\n<h3><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.elitefitness.com\/images\/specials\/code.gif\" width=\"420\" height=\"113\" alt=\"image\" style=\"border: 1px;\" \/><\/p>\n<p> Here\\'s a link to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.elitefitness.com\/amember\/\" target=\"_blank\">check out all the anabolic goodness in the EF Store<\/a>!<\/h3>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p><!-- InstanceEndEditable \n References:  Clin Cancer Res. 2005 Apr 15;11(8):2809-21. 2. 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