I was referring to dealing with spectro reps, that way you know you're getting you're stuff straight from the lab. I do love the thais and russians, but it depends on where you get them from. There are certain international sources....that i would never doubt that the product they sent me was legit. But the problem is that if you buy them domestically, then you have no idea where they came from, and there are a lot of fakes floating around here. In ontario, the bikers are famous for putting out fake naps.