Isn't Vitex bad with Fina or Deca as it may aggrevate the Progesteronic effect?

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muscles4ever

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• Jun 30, 2002

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I read here on the board that a lot of you advice Vitex at 1 gram a day to those that feel gyno signs from Fina or Deca.

But I was wondering, if Deca and Fina are actually Progestins isn't it VERY bad to use Vitex along with it? Which will actually make things worse?

 

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TxLonghorn

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• Jun 30, 2002

• #2

Progestins are bad, progesterone is good. Vitex helps the body raise progesterone. That is good.

 

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Time_Bomb

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• Jun 30, 2002

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Now I'm way lost I thought that Vitex would be good with Fina OR Deca. Liquidex for the anti-e and the Vitex for the "progesterone" activated gyno? Progestins= way over my head.. please enlighten.

 

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Veto

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• Jun 30, 2002

• #4

what's good about progesterone?
btw- I just had mine tested w/ a saliva kit and it was off the charts. Kinda sucks, huh?

 

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monkeyballs

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• Jun 30, 2002

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TxLonghorn said:

Progestins are bad, progesterone is good. Vitex helps the body raise progesterone. That is good.

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Could you please elaborate.
I've always been under the impression that elevated levels of progesterone are similar to elevated levels of Estradiol and Estrogen.

Please enlighten us yokels...

 

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monkeyballs

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• Jun 30, 2002

• #6

Excellent read. Thanks.

 

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muscles4ever

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• Jul 2, 2002

• #7

bottom line Vutex with Deca or not ?

Ok still, is it beneficial to take Vitex with Deca in order to raise Progesterone (which Macro and other say it's beneficial).

I now understand that Deca is actually a progestin (bad thing) and Vitex can raise Progesterone which is a good thing ?

So bottom line, is it beneficial to take Vitex with my Deca cycle from the start ?

 

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Hugh Gellatts

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• Jul 2, 2002

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yes, increased progesterone from vitex is good. i just used tren/anadrol and deca at the same time with alot of vitex. no problems whatsoever.

i'm thinking of changing my signiture quote to:

"Deca, fina and anadrol DO NOT convert to progesterone. they are progestins."


the idea that these drugs cause problems by converting to progesterone is one of the biggest misconceptions out there.

 

Last edited: Jul 2, 2002

lawnsaver

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• Jul 2, 2002

• #9

Progesterone...Good, Good
Prolactin...Bad, Bad

 

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muscles4ever

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• Jul 3, 2002

• #10

I'm heading to the store for some Vitex along with my Durabolin (Nadnrolone Phenylpropionate) and start taking 1g a day just in case.. I have a fear I am sensitive to Deca from my first cycle.