Low dose of Test (VAR?)

[JKurz1]

Can anyone point me to a thread or topic/experience of running low doses of test and/or Anavar - oxandrolone - ? Diagnosed with low test and androderm is the only way my doc will go. WOuld love to hear about your experiences. Does this afford you to consume mass clean cals and stay realiztively lean? Much thanks.

[sublime35]

Quote posted by JKurz1 Can anyone point me to a thread or topic/experience of running low doses of test and/or Anavar - oxandrolone - ? Diagnosed with low test and androderm is the only way my doc will go. WOuld love to hear about your experiences. Does this afford you to consume mass clean cals and stay realiztively lean? Much thanks.

What do you mean Androderm is all he'll do? This is your body not his. You're talking about the patches right? those things are bullshit, i used them for a month and didn't work AT ALL. I'd find another doctor, and if the current one you speak of isn't an endo, then go to one.

[JKurz1]

Quote posted by sublime35 What do you mean Androderm is all he'll do? This is your body not his. You're talking about the patches right? those things are bullshit, i used them for a month and didn't work AT ALL. I'd find another doctor, and if the current one you speak of isn't an endo, then go to one.

can i hear your success?

[sublime35]

Quote posted by JKurz1 can i hear your success?

i don't really have success. I went to the doctor because I suspected I had low test levels, which for someone who is 18 is odd, but i had all they signs. I went and my test levels were 77. I started out on Androgel, it worked, had my levels up to 424, well i wanted a "cheaper" solution so the endo. recommended the patches. WEll they ended up costing me the same, where a pain in the ass to keep on, and didn't even work, at all. Had my levels tested after 1 month use on them and they were back down really low. He suggested injections. I just go to my local doctor whom also specializes in internal medicine. I get 200mg ever other week. Haven't had levels tested since i started my i go get my blood drawn next week and have my follow up the week after that to see where i'm at.

I've noticed a difference in mood, strength. I was on a small bulk, not really trying to gain alot, more less just maintain and see if i can put on a little muscle and lose a little fat. I'm now trying to cut some of the fat i've gained coming back up to weight from my eating disorder i had. Going from 100 lbs to 175 gave me a little more fat than a i wanted, on top of what i kept, during my muslce wasting anorexia.

[thelion2005]

I can speak to Androgel and compound topical test. Both of these are standard prescriptions for HRT, which includes low dosage test.

I was given both by different Drs who saw this as the proper response to low test levels discovered in blood testing. Insurance paid.

With either, my original 300 level went to nearly 1,000. With Androgel over 9 months back in 2002, I went to 1,300.

Now this is not 3,000 like the Champs, but still not too shabby for a once daily rub-on. Ypu get about 10% of the product so the average is 5-10 mg per day depending on strength.

I packed on some nice muscle while on these products. Nothing like a cycle, but still enough to be noticed. Also jump started my sex life.

[mastropiece]

My experience
Doc was giving me androgel. I got sore nips the doc said that the gel aromitizes more that IM shots. then I asked for injections He started me on test testosterone cypionate 200 mgs. every three weeks. Well I got friendly with the receptionist and she started to schedule me in every other week. Doc cought on eventually but He liked it when I complimented him that my hrt therapy has:
decreased the use of the lavitra (my original excuse for test therapy was ed and low test levels)
increased sexual sensitivy and desire
Packed on some lean muscle
Wife told him she liked it also. One time he gave her a shot of Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - told me not to tear her up that weekend.
Now doc is writing me scripts and I inject myself (like the old days when I did cycles)
Test testosterone cypionate 100mg. week
nandrolone 50 mg. week
human growth hormone - somatropin - 1 iu EOD
dhea 50 mg. EOD
Arimidex 1/2 tab EOD
b-12 IM 1 cc every 7 days
other vitamin packs, CO2 and creatine product, flax and protien
The insurance does not cover human growth hormone - somatropin - or nadrolone

[JKurz1]

Quote posted by mastropiece My experience Doc was giving me androgel. I got sore nips the doc said that the gel aromitizes more that IM shots. then I asked for injections He started me on test testosterone cypionate 200 mgs. every three weeks. Well I got friendly with the receptionist and she started to schedule me in every other week. Doc cought on eventually but He liked it when I complimented him that my hrt therapy has: decreased the use of the lavitra (my original excuse for test therapy was ed and low test levels) increased sexual sensitivy and desire Packed on some lean muscle Wife told him she liked it also. One time he gave her a shot of Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - told me not to tear her up that weekend. Now doc is writing me scripts and I inject myself (like the old days when I did cycles) Test testosterone cypionate 100mg. week nandrolone 50 mg. week human growth hormone - somatropin - 1 iu EOD dhea 50 mg. EOD Arimidex 1/2 tab EOD b-12 IM 1 cc every 7 days other vitamin packs, CO2 and creatine product, flax and protien The insurance does not cover human growth hormone - somatropin - or nadrolone

me too.....cept I'm going more around 300mg test/week maintenence and will up to 500mg with NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - March 1....then keep cruizing....just wondering if I'm eating enough......
I know what I need calorie wise.....about 2800, do you think it's better to eat a pro/fat meal inbetween each pro carb meal?

For example:

meal 1 7am - 3/4 oats, 1egg, 1 cup egg whites
meal 2 10am- 1/2 cup rice, 5oz lean beef
meal 3 1pm- 3/4 cup oats, 5 oz chicken, 10 almonds
meal 4 ? Shake? Pretraining - nothing, or chicken/rice or whey shake
TRAIN - 4:15-5:30 (si[ on bcaas_
meal 5 - 2 pcs whole wheat bread or pasta
meal 6 pre bed casein shake, 20 almonds
Bed

stats 6'2, 160lbs, 10% bf lean mass attempt without cardio