any endurance athletes out there?

[fhg43]

I take Twinlabs Pyruvate Fuel which is calcium pyruvate monohydrate. Dosage is 3x750mg before really intense efforts. I works really well as a lactate acid buffer and save it for special occassions.

Haven't tried ribose yet. I might. Currently I ingest more pills than an AIDS patient!

FHG

 

[triguy]

RIDER: I keep mentioning inj ATP cause my old Bodybuilding diet guru said it would aid me. But your right it might be too short acting, im still looking into how to use it properly. * right b4 the sprint to the finsih why not pop a couple oral atp tabs an see how ya feel? *rider you a pro?

JACOB: i use pyruvate & ribose only on race days, im a supplement whore so its hard to see what doesnt & does work.

AS CYCLE: gained 5 pds of muscle . never thought id be upset at that. The gh does increase your recovery but i think its predominantly at the muscle cell & minimally at the nervous system. if us endurance athletes can find something that aids in our nervous system recovering that would kick ass. Im trying to sleep 8 hrs a night then 1.5 nap in day to aid my NS to heal.

 

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

Nootropics For Nerves

Have you used any nootropics for nerve recovery? Perhaps piracetam or hydergine? I have little experience with these, but much interest.

In reguards to ribose- is it like creatine? Do you need to load it for optimum results?

 

[rider]

triguy- yeh im a pro on the MTB and a 1 on the road.. next year I dont know how much MTB ill be doing.. im 19 years old so im not quite at the level to make alot of money in the dirt so I may have to go road, thats where the money is. I just graduated from high school and Im not going to college just yet so my parents are puttin the pressure on for me to make some serious money. I hear ya on throwin down a few tabs right before the sprint.. but just think of all the shit you'd get, maybe mix em up in a special bottle and down alot of it before the finish. Keep us posted on how the stuff works. You all seem to be in favor of pyruvate, I've heard of it but never tried it.. do you think it works? I used to be really into the supplements but kind of got burned out on taking so many pills, I dont use anything right now and didnt all of last year. I'd like to get back into it though, as im sure it will only help. I think ribose is more of a body building product, but let us know how that goes as well. Whats up with this nerve recovery? I didnt know they could be fatigued.. all i ever cared about was that my legs recovered.. damn, more things to worry about. seriously though, if any of you have any more info or any web sites about nervous system recovery let me know. How do you tell when your nervous system isin't recovered anyway? Thanks guys, I haven't been in this game too long so Im still learning the basics. Train hard.
rider

 

[triguy]

nitric oxide tanks! hmmmmmmmmmm

Nitric Oxide Helps Humans Adapt to High Altitudes
NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - People living at extremely high altitudes
produce higher concentrations of a compound that facilitates oxygen
flow throughout the body, researchers report.

The compound, nitric oxide (NO), is produced in the lungs and helps
blood vessels to dilate, thereby allowing oxygen-carrying blood to
flow more freely. ****NO also boosts the oxygen-carrying capacity of
hemoglobin, a component of red blood cells.*****

The findings, which are based on information from people in Bolivia
and Tibet, shed light on how humans adapt to high altitudes, according
to Dr. Cynthia M. Beall from Case Western Reserve University in
Cleveland, Ohio, and colleagues.

``The similar responses of these two geographically separate
high-altitude populations underlines the importance of NO for life
under hypoxic stress,'' they write.

Hypoxia is a severe lack of oxygen that causes symptoms ranging from
mental confusion to a life-threatening swelling of the brain.

According to the findings in the November 22 issue of Nature, people
who live at very high altitudes adapt by producing more NO than
individuals living at sea level. The researchers measured
concentrations of NO exhaled by 105 healthy nonsmokers living in Tibet
at 4,200 meters above sea level, in 144 people living in Bolivia at
3,900 meters above sea level, and in 33 people living at sea level in
the US.

The Tibetans were found to have more than twice the concentration of
NO that US citizens had. Similarly, the concentration of NO exhaled by
the Bolivians was 25% greater than concentrations exhaled by US
individuals.

``The functional advantage of high NO concentrations in the lungs
seems to be to offset ambient hypoxia by enhancing the uptake of
oxygen from the lungs, which presumably improves delivery of oxygen to
peripheral tissues,'' Beall and colleagues conclude.

 

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

Then can I pop viagra pre-competition for a performance boost? Perhaps sniff some amyl nitrate?

 

[rolfaldag]

post surgery programme

Wuz up!?!? Hey, I just got done with arthroscopic knee surgery and recovery has been quick, but ineed to be in the gym and on the bike! I know quite a bit of stuff, so if you all need to know anything about anything, lemme know, i just don't know too much about the "underground" scene yet. Anyhow, I'll thankyou before hand for sharing your vast plurethura of knowledge.

Here's my deal. I'm a college student 5'9" I weigh 148 lbs. 10% bf (as of today) I've just cat'd up to 2's. My knee surgery was a result of a nasty crah I had last summer and I'm sufferin'. I know I'm capable of bustin' on the scene in '02 whippin' ass, I just need a little help. I was thinking D-bol (once I get mobility of my L knee) and then some clean -up with some clen. Where I'm from everyone yaks about winny, but I think i'd benefit from big-time muscle gains.

Ciao,

Rolf

 

[triguy]

What's up nice to see some endurance athletes on here!


I think dbol would be a good choice if used with arimidex (anti-estrogen), dbol is known for greatly increasing ones recuperatrive abilities. Winny im finding out isnt really helpful with recovery (at this point in my traiining i need something to really boost my recovery, gotta get the miles in my body), added Gh an insulin and it boosted recovery.

In 1.5 months EQ, dbol, proviron, arimidex. Winny id use for racing. Training go with the harder stuff.

 

[rolfaldag]

like a virgin

Hey ,
I'm about to start my first cycle. I've got experience with inj plenty of VB12 for reco. and clenbuterol and I know a somewhat little bit of stuff about the shit I am planning on putting in my body. I kinda like injecting myself with stuff. With the aforementioned stuff though, my dr. knew about it and he ok'd my doses. Now I'm in college and he's not around and my teammate's, roomate's, training partner's words are somewhat coinciding, but they are of the old school(i know there's much to be learned from them, and i have) and don't particularly want guys i race with to know what i'm on either. I trust them because they're on the juice too, but I just don't want them to know, blah, blah...

I wanted you all's educated opinion on my situation and what I should do with it. Currently, I'm about 1.5 weeks out of arthroscopic knee surgery. Doc says i should be normal in about 1 mo. I'm already off of the crutches, when i'm supposed to still be in a wheelchair. I'm a f*cking stick and i need a 6 cylinder instead of my two stroke. I weigh 148 @ 10%BF. Last year I rode approx. 700 hrs and that's including weights. I race 90% Usually in the spring I am racing great, but as the season continues, I lose my "natural" gains from the weight room and what it boils down to is that I'm weak physicallly thus making me weak me mentally which is getting old really fast. I have a pretty sweet cardio engine, but it's not hooked up to a very nice genetically gifted drivetrain(my dad was a drunk and a couch potatoe all his damn life). I was thinking Dbol for when I start doing weights in about 1 mo. and then winny for racing and some clen to prep myself for the really hot summer. Trouble is, my advice has been to take as if I were 25+, 160+ lbs., and most already has big enough of a power output. Also, my Dbol cycle was recommended to me by a training partner as 1 tab for 5 days on 1st week, 2 for 5 days on second, 3 for 5 on third and then back down. Sounds a little un-scientific and rudimentary if you ask me. I've looked at a lot of these bodybuilders stacks and cycles, but I'm not sure if our goals are the same, but I know you guys have somewhat of an idea of what I'm after, and that's why I've asked. I know too I DO NOT have have problem recovering unless I've been around a bunch of sick little kids or something. I start racing in March and I plan on peaking for my first race in mid-april. I also had just cat'd up to 2's when I tore up my knee. I wanna whip ass and keep whipin' ass.

Any sug?

Thanks a head of time...,

Rolf

 

[rider]

here is my advice- WORK HARD! dont start using juice yet, you are too young. When you at your genetic best, then consider illegal supplements. You'll get a hell of alot more out of the juice if you wait. What you need to do if you want to be fast is ride your bike, dont stress the weights.. you are a bike racer not a weight lifter. Do weights 2x a week for 1.5-2 months, your strength should come from on the bike, put it in the 53x15 and do 4 hour rides. That'll get you strong. Supplements are not the hear all end all to athletic performance, I raced very well last season on nothing but hard work and extran in my water bottles. Also, lose some weight before you start racing, get the BF % down to 5-6% even lower for target events. Hope this helps. Good luck.
rider