Red Dragon definately makes some very good and legit gear. However, for cutting purposes I have never been a very big fan of clen or especially T3. I think that for myself, I get better results for a cutting cycle by eating a VERY strict diet, and using gear like tren, winny, or halo. Clen and T3 just make me feel to uneasy or "on edge." It may take me a bit longer to reach the point I want to be at, but the psychological difference is definately worth the wait. I typically will start to diet about 3 1/2 to 4 months out of a show. Only draw back from that is the fact that I am so deep in ketosis that I get that rotten fruity smell you hear about from time to time. With Clen, it definately speeds up the body fat decrease and eliminates the smell. The last 2 shows I just competed in my wife wouldnt let me sleep in the same bed with her I smelled so bad. Lucky for me both shows were only 3 weeks apart from each other.