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why nolva for PCT ?
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GoldenDelicious
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youre mixed up
arimidex is an anti aromatase, and stops estrogen formation from aromatiseable hormones (eg test)
nolva on the other hand blocks the action of estrogen that has aleady formed
cheers
arimidex is an anti aromatase, and stops estrogen formation from aromatiseable hormones (eg test)
nolva on the other hand blocks the action of estrogen that has aleady formed
cheers
VictorBR
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Ops I got it now , you are always helping me bro ...I will hit you with good karma 
But so , what if I had formed no estrogen during my cycle ? Then , I wouldn't need nolva . I ask it because I will use aromasin during my whole cycle , so chances are that I will not form any estrogen in excess.. ( sp ? ) ...then nolva would be useless ?
Victor
But so , what if I had formed no estrogen during my cycle ? Then , I wouldn't need nolva . I ask it because I will use aromasin during my whole cycle , so chances are that I will not form any estrogen in excess.. ( sp ? ) ...then nolva would be useless ?
Victor
napolean22
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even though you used adex throughout your entire cycle, you would still need a Anti-E drug like clomid or nolvadex because when you come off the juice, your natural test is hovering around the ZERO mark...hence estrogen will go up. Which is where the anti-E drugs come in to play.
Nolva blocks the estrogen receptors and moderately stimulates the body's own production of testosterone. Clomid has a strong influence on stimulating the body's own testosterone production and will help your "boys" return to active duty.
Clomid is not an anabolic/androgenic steroid. Since it is a synthetic estrogen it belongs, however, to the group of sex hormones. In school medicine Clomid is normally used to trigger ovulation. Clomid also has a strong influence on the hypothalamohypophysial testicular axis. It stimulates the hypophysis to release more gonadotropin so that a faster and higher release of FSH (follicle stimulating hormone) and LH (luteinizing hormone) occurs. This results in an elevated endogenous (body's own) testosterone level. Clomid is especially effective when the body's own testosterone production, due to the intake of anabolic/androgenic steroids, is suppressed. In most cases Clomid can normalize the testosterone level and the spermatogenesis (sperm development) within 10- 14 days. For this reason Clomid is primarily taken after steroids are discontinued. At this time it is extremely important to bring the testosterone production to a normal level as quickly as possible so that the loss of strength and muscle mass is minimized.
Clomid is not an anabolic/androgenic steroid. Since it is a synthetic estrogen it belongs, however, to the group of sex hormones. In school medicine Clomid is normally used to trigger ovulation. Clomid also has a strong influence on the hypothalamohypophysial testicular axis. It stimulates the hypophysis to release more gonadotropin so that a faster and higher release of FSH (follicle stimulating hormone) and LH (luteinizing hormone) occurs. This results in an elevated endogenous (body's own) testosterone level. Clomid is especially effective when the body's own testosterone production, due to the intake of anabolic/androgenic steroids, is suppressed. In most cases Clomid can normalize the testosterone level and the spermatogenesis (sperm development) within 10- 14 days. For this reason Clomid is primarily taken after steroids are discontinued. At this time it is extremely important to bring the testosterone production to a normal level as quickly as possible so that the loss of strength and muscle mass is minimized.
GoldenDelicious
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one or the other, doesnt matter. nolva is becoming more favored these days because of less sides and less expense, apparently
the above 2 guys also have relevent info in their posts, but yeah, bottom line is that anti e's like nolva/clomid are used during cycle to counter gyno when symptoms present, or post cycle to hasten recovery
actually there are some guys who apparently use them during cycle as an extra test boost, but personally i wouldnt do this and save their impact for pct
cheers
and dont worry about k, not fussed
the above 2 guys also have relevent info in their posts, but yeah, bottom line is that anti e's like nolva/clomid are used during cycle to counter gyno when symptoms present, or post cycle to hasten recovery
actually there are some guys who apparently use them during cycle as an extra test boost, but personally i wouldnt do this and save their impact for pct
cheers
and dont worry about k, not fussed
GoldenDelicious
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i say use the clomid, and rent out a whole bunch of chick flicks
im going to do that one day, just for a laugh
im going to do that one day, just for a laugh
if you have a test level of zero, you will also have zero estrogen because males make estrogen only through aromatase. only females produce estrogen from the start (in their ovaries).napolean22 said:
but in recovery test levels will rise and will form estrogen and this will dampen a fast recovery. using anti-e during pct will block one of two negative feedback loops and will speed up recovery.
estrogens have a life of not more than around one day, so both levels are closely correlated to each other.
