Steroids, connective tissue, inguinal hernia - HELP

[VEGATA]

Hey everyone,
I have a big problem with my recovery from inguinal hernia surgery. I'm desperate! My surgery was on January 15 and I still feel pain. Subsequently I understand that I have weak connective tissue. Now I have doubts about a new hernia on my right inguinal canal who was healthy. Already starting to think that I will never be able to train. I read a lot about hernia and try to observe "any law", but nothing helped me. I turned to this forum as a last hope. I want to ask if there are any steroids that can strengthen my connective tissue or would help the recovery. Nandrolone(deca)? HGH? IGF-1? Boldenone? Can you tell me how football players and bodybuilders recover for 1-2 weeks and again begin to train hard.
Thanks and sorry if there is any mistakes - my english is not good!
I forgot to say that my grandfather had a hernia a few times and my mother too. So the problem may be hereditary! Any help will be usefull.

 

[LiftHeavy078]

Increase skeletal muscle & collagen synthesis with certain AAS

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(originally posted by AnimalMass)

While injecting test increases protein synthesis by roughly 50 times, depending on dose and time, most bodybuilders forget that it will reduce collagen synthesis by more than 50% -- more like 80%, giving you the collagen synthesis rate of a senior citizen. Since collagen makes up tendons, bros are very prone to injury if they continue to lift very heavy, unless they cycle off T and let their collagen synthesis get back to normal. It's like having the skeletal muscle of a gorilla with the tendons of a very old man.

Winstrol increases collagen synthesis. It will give you bigger tendons. However, your body compensates for this by making them more brittle, weaker, and more prone to injury. I can't tell you how many bros work out anaerobically and become injured while on winstrol. Guys who lift in the 1-5 rep range while on winstrol, to baseball players who sprint all out from a stationary position -- winstrol should be the LAST drug they choose. Most of them like winstrol because they don't get the weight gain from it but it is very detrimental to bros who train for any sport anaerobically. Tendons tear easily on it.

Also, the drugs I mention increase collagen synthesis while also increasing collagen cross-linking integrity, making for a much stronger tendon.

Winstrol, on the other hand, will dramatically increase collagen syn, but ironically it decreases collagen cross-linking integrity, thus making a much weaker tendon.

You can plan a cycle of AAS which will increase collagen synthesis and skeletal muscle growth at the same time. The key is the drug(s) you choose.

Deca, Equipoise, Anavar, and Primobolan will ALL increase skeletal muscle while at the same time dramatically increase collagen syn and bone mass and density, leaving you with a substantially reduced chance of becoming injured than if you choose to use AAS like sus, cyp, or enth.

While testosterone will increase bone mass and density, even at supra-physiological levels, the result is weaker tendons due to inhibition of collagen syn.

To plan a cycle where the goal is to increase skeletal muscle mass/strength while at the same time increase joint/tendon/ligament strength, enough to keep up with the dramatic increase in skeletal muscle, you must choose drugs like Eq, Deca, Anavar, or Primo as the base of your cycle. Testosterone and its esters can be added to your cycle to keep levels within a 'normal' physiological range (ie, 100-200 mg/wk) but must not go above this. Since drugs like eq, deca, anavar and primo will reduce endogenous, natural levels of test, these levels may be maintained with exogenous test in the 100-200 mg/wk range. Test at this dose will not inhibit collagen syn, but paradoxically, will help increase it. It is when exogenous testosterone is used > 200 mg/wk that collagen syn is inhibited.

Deca @ 3 mg/kg a week(about 270 mg/wk for a 200 lb male) will increase procollagen III levels by 270% by week 2. Procollagen III is a primary indicator used to determine the rate of collagen syn. As you can see, deca is a very good drug at giving you everything you want -- an increase in collagen syn, an increase in skeletal muscle, and increases in bone mass and density. The one thing it does not give you is wood.

Primobolan, @ 5 mg/kg, will increase collagen synthesis by roughly 180% -- less than deca and equipoise but still substantial.

Equipoise @ 3 mg/kg will increase procollagen III by approximately 340% -- slightly better than deca.

Oxandrolone has over a hundred studies documenting its effectiveness at treating patients needing rapid increases in collagen syn to enhance healing.

These drugs have longer half-lives than most other AAS, so this should be considered when timing your post cycle Clomid use. Here they are:

Deca: 15 days Equipoise: 14 days Primobolan: 10.5 days

Anavar has a half-life of only 8 hours so it should not pose a problem.

GH is probably the most remarkable drug at increasing collagen synthesis. It increases collagen syn in a dose dependant manner -- the more you use, the more you will increase collagen syn. It has also demonstrated this ability in short and long term studies. From what I've read, hGH at 6 iu/day increased the collagen deposition rate by around 250% in damaged collagen structures. This result indicates that the increased biomechanical strength of wounds to collagen structures treated with biosynthetic human growth hormone was produced by an increased deposition of collagen in the collagen structures.

Eq, primo, anavar, and deca are all good -- they increase several biomakers of collagen syn -- ie, type III, II, I, procollagen markers. GH just seems to do so most dramatically.

Use of any of these drugs @ supra-physiological levels with a maintenance dose of test will increase collagen syn while at the same time increase skeletal muscle mass. Skeletal muscle mass gains will not be as dramatic as with large testosterone doses but you have to weigh the risk/reward basis for yourself. Also, these drugs do not satisfy the libido like testosterone, but that is not the point of this thread. It is only to demonstrate that you can increase skeletal muscle and collagen syn at the same time with certain AAS -- the decision is up to you.

 

[VEGATA]

Thanks for the usefull info man, it's really helped me!
It is time to translate this post perfectly on my language. Then probably will have something to ask you
which is not clear for me.
Thanks

 

[LiftHeavy078]

No problem, glad it helped. If you have any questions just ask.

 

[VEGATA]

I'm still not decided, but if I'll make steroid cycle for increase skeletal muscle & collagen synthesis, maybe I'll have to choose only 1-3 steroids because the cycle will be first for me. What cycles you would recommend me? Steroids that I can find are: deca, primobolan, boldenon, testosterone, anavar i.e. without HGH or IGF. I'm sure that deca, primobolan and testosterone are not fake. I want to do it with Boldenon, primobolan and anavar but deca, boldenon & 100-200mg test is option too. Is this stupid?
I'm 21 years old, 180cm, 68-70kg and my doses must be: deca 210mg/week, primobolan 350mg/?, boldenon 210mg/?, test 100-200mg, anavar ?mg - Right? I want to emphasize that everything is for medical purposes! I don't want to gain weight or something special just want to recover. I've played basketball and also have injured ankles and wrists.
For these purposes, what should be the period of treatment?
Think to add some supplement like Animal Flex, Hydrolyzed gelatin, Glutamine and Arginine.
The food I think is good to consume is bone bouillon, culinary gelatine.

Edit: Sorry for my English

 

[OMEGA]

the pain is Scar Tissue....it will take time to not feel.

Also how would you develop a new hernia? has it been diagnosed?

If not then it might be in your head.


Once the docs clears you Fix your training to not have this happen again

its part of the reason i made the OMEGA PROJECT:


http://www.elitefitness.com/reports/omega/

 

[Varga]

I'm still not decided, but if I'll make steroid cycle for increase skeletal muscle & collagen synthesis, maybe I'll have to choose only 1-3 steroids because the cycle will be first for me. What cycles you would recommend me? Steroids that I can find are: deca, primobolan, boldenon, testosterone, anavar i.e. without HGH or IGF. I'm sure that deca, primobolan and testosterone are not fake. I want to do it with Boldenon, primobolan and anavar but deca, boldenon & 100-200mg test is option too. Is this stupid?
I'm 21 years old, 180cm, 68-70kg and my doses must be: deca 210mg/week, primobolan 350mg/?, boldenon 210mg/?, test 100-200mg, anavar ?mg - Right? I want to emphasize that everything is for medical purposes! I don't want to gain weight or something special just want to recover. I've played basketball and also have injured ankles and wrists.
For these purposes, what should be the period of treatment?
Think to add some supplement like Animal Flex, Hydrolyzed gelatin, Glutamine and Arginine.
The food I think is good to consume is bone bouillon, culinary gelatine.

Edit: Sorry for my English

I've had weak tendons in my younger years and I used to get hurt more than I should have! Nothing major luckly but the big difference I noticed when I start using IGF and HGH.
DO NOT get involved with steriods it will not really work for your purpose. It seems that you have a hereditary issue however with exercise and use of IGF and HGH it could help you with your problems.

Taking steroids will have the opposite effect on your conective tissues tendons, the increase in muscle mass response will put too much pressure and damage your tendons. I've been there and done that...after a few years of HGH and IGF I can lift more weight then I even had imagined 10 years ago and my tendons are absolutely crazy strong from where I've been.
Im not sure if you deficient in HGH or IGF production but if I were you I would def give it some thought and research their effect on tendons and ligaments recovery and strength. With the right treatment you will not believe the difference and wont mess with your testosterone production either!!
THe worse thing though is that if you have some kind of condition at celular level or something where you might need to seek the help of a specialist.

 

[VEGATA]

I don't know, any opinion and post seems logical I'm torn.

 

[kahunaneo]

I bring up this discussion because i have the same issue...

I have a opened canal at the inguinal passage (where it may herniate the intestine out on the testicles) but it is not fully opened because it is only 8 millimeters wide.
The doctor say that "I have to wait until the intestine herniate out and we can operate" ... ahhaah ok thats crazy for me...

Also i have like the other guy a laxity of ligaments and also a propension to make inguinal hernis also on left side because of the laxity of the inguinal canal (that in the end is a connective tissue between two muscle.

so....

the question....

a) there is some local peptide(the new one) that i can injet to make the connective tissue at the inguinal canal more strong?

b)also did a combination of systemic peptide like ipam and mod-ghrh , can make the connective tissue at this site more strong?

c)for now i only have ipam do you think if i injet near the inguinal canal can make a differences?

thanks a lot...