I need advice: Deca+Anavar cycle

[EliteFitnessGuy]

Hello, I am currently planning a cycle consisting of nandrolone and oxandrolone. These two steroids are actually my only choice. I have been on some sort of hair therapy for almost 13 years, so save your time and don't recommend testosterone or any other Kojak's coctail to me. I don't care about any decrease of libido. Further, stanozolol destroys my joints, and T-bol from my underground source seems to be ineffective. Hence I have only three mild steroids left - boldenone, oxandrolone and nandrolone. I took nandrolone about 8 years ago, but I have never taken oxandrolone and boldenone. Considering that boldenone acts in a similar way like oxandrolone, I choose oxandrolone, because it is to be milder.

I understand that deca+anavar is not an ideal choice, because both work via androgen receptors and their combination will hardly bring any additional effect. However, I don't want to use deca alone, because I expect that anavar would help me to burn some fat (Again, save your time with recommending tons of cardio; I can't do it from health reasons.) And I also don't want to use anavar alone, because nandrolone is more effective as a mass builder. My primary aim is strength and fat loss, however.

In any case, I plan to use deca for at least 10 weeks, 300-400 mg/week, which should be a minimum for my weight (95 kg/210 lbs). Now, there is a problem, when to use oxandrolone. Considering that nandrolone starts to work after 3-4 weeks in me, I think over 2 possibilities, how to use anavar:

1) at high doses (at least 50 mg/day) during the 1-4th week for a "kickstart", and then in low doses (10-30 mg/day) during the 9-14th week, which should help to restore endogenous testosterone.

2) at modest doses (30-40 mg/day) throughout 3-10th week, and then again at low doses (10-30 mg/day) during 11-14th week

One thing that I have no idea about is if oxandrolone used at the beginning of the cycle can "fatigue" androgen receptors, which would make the second half of the cycle largely useless. Recently I namely ran T-bol for 3 weeks and since it was ineffective, I added stanozolol since the 4th week. It started to work almost immediately. However, although I gradually raised the dose of stanozolol up to 50 mg/day, it suddenly ceased to be effective during the 6th week and I basically stagnated. I think that T-bol "oversaturated" androgen receptors, and the rest of the cycle (and actually the cycle as a whole) was then a waste.

[RADAR]

anavar DOES NOT BURN FAT! There i've said it.
You're gonna have to tweak your diet to loose any fat, and whats wrong with cardio? Even a stationary bike will help.If you're not fit to do cardio that how in the world are you able to train all out?


As Quoted:I don't want to use deca alone, because I expect that anavar would help me to burn some fat (Again, save your time with recommending tons of cardio; I can't do it from health reasons.)
After reading that.....You have no business doing steroids!


Running var with deca won't produce any noticable effects as all of The vascularity var gives will be covered by the bloat from deca.


RADAR

[eClenbuterol]

So why can you not do cardio bro? Are you in a wheel chair?

[EliteFitnessGuy]

Quote posted by RADAR anavar DOES NOT BURN FAT! There i've said it. You're gonna have to tweak your diet to loose any fat, and whats wrong with cardio? Even a stationary bike will help.If you're not fit to do cardio that how in the world are you able to train all out? As Quoted:I don't want to use deca alone, because I expect that anavar would help me to burn some fat (Again, save your time with recommending tons of cardio; I can't do it from health reasons.) After reading that.....You have no business doing steroids! Running var with deca won't produce any noticable effects as all of The vascularity var gives will be covered by the bloat from deca. RADAR

I am not interested in vascularity. And anavar is proven to burn fat. However, now I think it would be probably better to take anavar alone, for 6 weeks, 60-80 mg/day. I appreciate strength more than water mass. I don't like bloat; my face then looks like if I just left a beehouse. My first experience with deca was only with 200-300 mg/week for 6 weeks, which produced no gains in size, but a pretty good increase of strength.

And as for my health, I can't tell you anything anyway, so you don't have to care; I know what I am doing.

[RADAR]

Quote posted by EliteFitnessGuy I am not interested in vascularity. And anavar is proven to burn fat. However, now I think it would be probably better to take anavar alone, for 6 weeks, 60-80 mg/day. I appreciate strength more than water mass. I don't like bloat; my face then looks like if I just left a beehouse. My first experience with deca was only with 200-300 mg/week for 6 weeks, which produced no gains in size, but a pretty good increase of strength. And as for my health, I can't tell you anything anyway, so you don't have to care; I know what I am doing.

Whatever it's your body and the only one you will have......And Show me Proof var burns fat!



there’s a lot of things you need to know before you can sit down and create yourself a perfect cycle.

The most important thing you need to know is what your EXACT goals are for THIS cycle. From here you can figure out exactly what steroids are right for you and at what dosages.

BASICS:
So what about steroids, ancillaries, and other drugs do you need to know? You need to know the basics of the most por drugs available.

Steroids:
-testosterone (Enan, testosterone cypionate, prop, sust, Omnadren)/Test
-deca-Durabolin/deca
-Equipose/eq
-dianabol/d-bol
-winstrol/winny
-anadrol/Anadrol 50 - oxymetholone -
-halotestin/halo
-anavar/var
-tren/fina
-primobolan/primo

Ancillaries:
-Nolvadex/nolva (Tamoxifen)
-Arimidex/Arim (Anastrozole)
-Femera/Fem (Letrozole)
-Aromasin (Exemestane)
-Clomid
-hcg
-Proviron (technically a steroid, but oft considered an ancillary)
-finasteride/Proscar
-Bromocriptine/bromo

Other BBing/Performance Enhancing Drugs:
-Clenbuterol/Clenbuterol
-Cytomel/Cynomel/T3
-dnp - dinitrophenol -
-insulin/insulin
-Human Growth Hormone/hgh/gh
-EPO

There are of course many other types of steroids, ancillaries and sports enhancing drugs, but they are extremely rare. I won’t go into a full discussion about each of the drugs above, but will just list properties of the drugs and state which steroids have those properties.

-Large Mass Steroids: Test, deca, Anadrol 50 - oxymetholone - , d-bol and to a lesser extent: eq, primo
-Strength Steroids: Test, Anadrol 50 - oxymetholone - , d-bol, tren and to a lesser extent: halo, var
-Steroids that have low/no aromatization: Anadrol 50 - oxymetholone - , eq, primo, halo, var, tren, winny
-Steroids that raise red blood cell count: eq, Anadrol 50 - oxymetholone - and to a lesser extent: most others
-Low-Lean Mass Steroids: winny, halo, var, tren
-Steroids with direct fat-burning properties: Test, tren, var
-Mostly Androgenic Steroids: halo, Methyltest
-Mostly Anabolic Steroids: deca, eq, primo, winny, var
-Highly Anabolic Androgens: d-bol, Anadrol 50 - oxymetholone - , tren
-Mostly even Androgenic/Anabolic Steroids: Test
-Steroid most likely to cause aggression: tren
-Liver Toxic Steroids: d-bol, winny, Anadrol 50 - oxymetholone - , halo, Methyltest, var
-Short Acting Steroids: test prop, d-bol, winny, Anadrol 50 - oxymetholone - , halo, var, tren
-Long Acting Steroids: Test Enan, Test testosterone cypionate, deca, eq, primo, sust, Omnadren
-Progestins: deca, anadrol
-Prolactins: tren
-Acts like an estrogen: anadrol
-Anti-Progestin: winny* (anecdotal evidence)
-Drugs for Mass (excluding anabolic steroids): insulin
-Drugs for Strength (excluding anabolic steroids): insulin, gh
-Anti-Aromatases: Arimidex, Femera, Aromasin, Proviron
-Anti-Estrogens: Nolvadex, Clomid
-Anti-Androgens: finasteride
-Fat Burners: Clenbuterol, T3, dnp - dinitrophenol - , gh and
fina
-Anti-Prolactin: bromo
-Stimulates lh - leutenizing hormone - release: hcg
-Aids hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - recovery: Clomid, nolva, gh
-Drugs that increase red-blood cell count (excluding anabolic steroids): EPO, gh



so there you have it.
Do as you wish,it seems you already have your mind made up!




Peace!



RADAR

[eClenbuterol]

And as for my health, I can't tell you anything anyway, so you don't have to care; I know what I am doing

Diet and cardio burn fat. You might know what you are doing, but have no idea what you are talking about.

[brandonp005]

Quote posted by eclenbuterol diet and cardio burn fat. You might know what you are doing, but have no idea what you are talking about.

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