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Nighthawkk
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Appoximately many liters of water do you normally drink while "on"?
Conversion:
4 cups (1 quart) = .95 liter
4 quarts (1 gal.) = 3.8 liters
Conversion:
4 cups (1 quart) = .95 liter
4 quarts (1 gal.) = 3.8 liters
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How much water do you drink on cycle?
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BigCracker
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1 gal/day avg. Maybe 1.5 gal/day while cutting?
wayneboard1
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Nighthawkk said:
When on my typical injects (test and eq) I drink on average 1 gallon a day. I use the color of my urine as my gauge and stop drinking water before about 6PM so I'm not up peeing 5 times a night.
When on orals, I drink 1.5 gallons at least and stop before 6PM as well unless my urine is still not clear or slightly clear.
Regardless of if it's clear or not, I still consume at least the amounts stated above and more if needed.
When off I drink on average 3/4ths of a gallon a day.
dullboy
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FYI
Too much water can kill you
April 2005
By JOHN WILLIAMS
Most people will never have to worry about drinking too much water. But in rare cases, some high-endurance athletes and a few others may be at risk.
Everything in moderation, goes the old saying. That even applies to one of our most basic needs — the amount of water we drink.
It's ironic, considering that water makes up roughly two-thirds of our bodies, that you can drink too much water. Even so, in some extremely rare instances, too much water consumed too quickly can make you seriously ill — perhaps even kill you.
But before you trash your stash of Ozarka, let's put things in perspective. If you're a reasonably healthy adult, you'll never have to worry about falling victim to "water intoxication," as it's known. Well, almost never. If you're planning to run in any marathons, you may want to read on.
What is water intoxication?
Water intoxication results when you drink much more water than your body can process. By "more," we mean a lot more than draining your water glass at the restaurant. How much water is too much may vary from person to person, but drinking roughly two gallons or more within three to six hours can be enough to put you in the danger zone.
For those of us who nurse the same bottle of water during the day, this is much more than we're ever likely to drink. Cases of water intoxication are relatively rare, and deaths resulting from water intoxication rarer still.
The most recent incident, which occurred earlier this year, involved a California college fraternity pledge who was reportedly forced to drink about five gallons during an overnight hazing ritual. (Closer to home, water intoxication put a student at Southern Methodist University in Dallas in a coma for a week in 2003.)
Besides fraternity pledges, others at risk for water intoxication include those who cannot regulate the amount of water they drink, including mentally incapacitated adults, as well as bottle-fed infants who are force-fed water by parents who don't know any better, according to Dr. Arash Tirandaz, a specialist in internal medicine at Plano's Presbyterian Hospital.
One group may be at higher risk
One other group may be at higher risk for water intoxication: high-performance athletes, especially those who compete in marathons or other long-term, intense activities. According to the University of Florida's College of Health and Human Performance, recent studies indicated that 18 percent of marathoners and 29 percent of those who completed an Ironman triathlon reported symptoms of water intoxication. Earlier this month, the New England Journal of Medicine reported that 13 percent of the runners in the 2002 Boston Marathon who provided blood samples after the race were similarly symptomatic.
The problem, ironically, stems from participants seeking to avoid the opposite extreme of dehydration, according to Amby Burfoot, editor of Runner's World magazine, who began following the issue after some marathon participants collapsed from water intoxication several years ago.
"They drink too much water before the race begins, and they drink too much water during the race," said Burfoot, who won the 1968 Boston Marathon on "a very hot day, and no one told us to drink anything."
While neither extreme is desirable, Burfoot said if he had to choose between the two, dehydration is preferable to water intoxication, as it typically is easier to remedy.
"It'll never happen, but the healthier thing to do at marathons would be to stop providing water after the 20-mile mark, or about four hours after the race has started," Burfoot said.
Why water intoxication is so dangerous
To understand why such athletes are at higher risk, it's important to understand why water intoxication can be so dangerous. Intense activities such as running or cycling cause the body to sweat profusely, especially in the hot, humid weather typical of Texas springs and summers. That means your body is losing not only water but salt and other electrolytes that help your body's muscles and organs function properly.
But chugging down a lot of water doesn't solve the problem. Even if you're sweating profusely, your kidneys can only process so much water — typically, about four gallons a day, or an average of about 20 ounces of water per hour. Whatever water is not excreted through sweat or urine is stored in your body's tissues and blood.
A more critical factor is that, if you only drink water, you're not replacing the electrolytes that have been lost to sweat. The excess water, as it is stored in your tissues and blood, dilutes what electrolytes are left in your body.
You're in trouble if the excess water dilutes your salt levels below a certain point. That results in a condition called hyponatremia, which can lead to a breakdown of your brain, heart and muscle functions. If the excess water seeps into your brain, causing it to swell, death can result.
Unfortunately, by the time you begin to exhibit symptoms of water intoxication — headaches, apathy, confusion, dizziness, nausea and fatigue — "you're probably well on the way to developing even more serious symptoms," said Dr. Donald Williams, an Austin pediatrician and director of student health services for the Austin Independent School District.
A complicating factor is that the symptoms of water intoxication mirror those of dehydration, which can lead onlookers to advise the victim to drink even more water — or even worse, force-feed them water. Most worrisome of all is that some victims exhibit no symptoms at all but lapse into seizures or a coma.
Water intoxication is sometimes treatable, if you get to an emergency room in time. "The hospital would usually use intravenous Mannitol, a drug that reduces brain swelling, and possibly other IV fluids with a high sodium concentration," Williams said. And, of course, no water.
Why runners may be at higher risk
Members of sports teams are not at as great a risk for water intoxication because the teams are more likely to control fluid intake and provide sports drinks like Gatorade, which help replenish electrolytes as well as water. It's the lone runner or cyclist, left to his or her own devices, who is more susceptible, first by overindulging in water before the event and then continuing to drink lots of water without replenishing the electrolytes lost to sweat.
Especially at risk are smaller, slower runners, according to Burfoot. "They don't sweat as much as the other runners, so they need less water. And because they're running slower, they have more opportunity to stop at the water stations." Burfoot advises runners to drink only about 14 to 28 ounces — about a cup of water every 20 minutes — during competition. And even then, adds Burfoot, "the rule is to drink only when you feel moderately thirsty."
If you've been running a couple of hours, switch to a sports drink, or include a salty snack, such as pretzels or chips, to replenish the salt in your system. Williams also advises not to take any pain relievers that contain ibuprofen before or during the race, as it may interfere with your kidneys' ability to excrete water.
How much water is enough? That begs the question for those of us who don't compete in marathons or Ironman competitions: How much water do you really need to stay healthy?
Many health experts recommend drinking eight to 12 eight-ounce glasses of water or other fluid each day. Others say that amount is too arbitrary — your thirst is your best indicator of how much water to drink, if you're reasonably healthy and not affected by diabetes or other conditions that may leave you with a ravenous thirst.
"I know people in their 90s who have drunk only a glass or two of water a day for years, and they're perfectly fine," Tirandaz said.
Too much water can kill you
April 2005
By JOHN WILLIAMS
Most people will never have to worry about drinking too much water. But in rare cases, some high-endurance athletes and a few others may be at risk.
Everything in moderation, goes the old saying. That even applies to one of our most basic needs — the amount of water we drink.
It's ironic, considering that water makes up roughly two-thirds of our bodies, that you can drink too much water. Even so, in some extremely rare instances, too much water consumed too quickly can make you seriously ill — perhaps even kill you.
But before you trash your stash of Ozarka, let's put things in perspective. If you're a reasonably healthy adult, you'll never have to worry about falling victim to "water intoxication," as it's known. Well, almost never. If you're planning to run in any marathons, you may want to read on.
What is water intoxication?
Water intoxication results when you drink much more water than your body can process. By "more," we mean a lot more than draining your water glass at the restaurant. How much water is too much may vary from person to person, but drinking roughly two gallons or more within three to six hours can be enough to put you in the danger zone.
For those of us who nurse the same bottle of water during the day, this is much more than we're ever likely to drink. Cases of water intoxication are relatively rare, and deaths resulting from water intoxication rarer still.
The most recent incident, which occurred earlier this year, involved a California college fraternity pledge who was reportedly forced to drink about five gallons during an overnight hazing ritual. (Closer to home, water intoxication put a student at Southern Methodist University in Dallas in a coma for a week in 2003.)
Besides fraternity pledges, others at risk for water intoxication include those who cannot regulate the amount of water they drink, including mentally incapacitated adults, as well as bottle-fed infants who are force-fed water by parents who don't know any better, according to Dr. Arash Tirandaz, a specialist in internal medicine at Plano's Presbyterian Hospital.
One group may be at higher risk
One other group may be at higher risk for water intoxication: high-performance athletes, especially those who compete in marathons or other long-term, intense activities. According to the University of Florida's College of Health and Human Performance, recent studies indicated that 18 percent of marathoners and 29 percent of those who completed an Ironman triathlon reported symptoms of water intoxication. Earlier this month, the New England Journal of Medicine reported that 13 percent of the runners in the 2002 Boston Marathon who provided blood samples after the race were similarly symptomatic.
The problem, ironically, stems from participants seeking to avoid the opposite extreme of dehydration, according to Amby Burfoot, editor of Runner's World magazine, who began following the issue after some marathon participants collapsed from water intoxication several years ago.
"They drink too much water before the race begins, and they drink too much water during the race," said Burfoot, who won the 1968 Boston Marathon on "a very hot day, and no one told us to drink anything."
While neither extreme is desirable, Burfoot said if he had to choose between the two, dehydration is preferable to water intoxication, as it typically is easier to remedy.
"It'll never happen, but the healthier thing to do at marathons would be to stop providing water after the 20-mile mark, or about four hours after the race has started," Burfoot said.
Why water intoxication is so dangerous
To understand why such athletes are at higher risk, it's important to understand why water intoxication can be so dangerous. Intense activities such as running or cycling cause the body to sweat profusely, especially in the hot, humid weather typical of Texas springs and summers. That means your body is losing not only water but salt and other electrolytes that help your body's muscles and organs function properly.
But chugging down a lot of water doesn't solve the problem. Even if you're sweating profusely, your kidneys can only process so much water — typically, about four gallons a day, or an average of about 20 ounces of water per hour. Whatever water is not excreted through sweat or urine is stored in your body's tissues and blood.
A more critical factor is that, if you only drink water, you're not replacing the electrolytes that have been lost to sweat. The excess water, as it is stored in your tissues and blood, dilutes what electrolytes are left in your body.
You're in trouble if the excess water dilutes your salt levels below a certain point. That results in a condition called hyponatremia, which can lead to a breakdown of your brain, heart and muscle functions. If the excess water seeps into your brain, causing it to swell, death can result.
Unfortunately, by the time you begin to exhibit symptoms of water intoxication — headaches, apathy, confusion, dizziness, nausea and fatigue — "you're probably well on the way to developing even more serious symptoms," said Dr. Donald Williams, an Austin pediatrician and director of student health services for the Austin Independent School District.
A complicating factor is that the symptoms of water intoxication mirror those of dehydration, which can lead onlookers to advise the victim to drink even more water — or even worse, force-feed them water. Most worrisome of all is that some victims exhibit no symptoms at all but lapse into seizures or a coma.
Water intoxication is sometimes treatable, if you get to an emergency room in time. "The hospital would usually use intravenous Mannitol, a drug that reduces brain swelling, and possibly other IV fluids with a high sodium concentration," Williams said. And, of course, no water.
Why runners may be at higher risk
Members of sports teams are not at as great a risk for water intoxication because the teams are more likely to control fluid intake and provide sports drinks like Gatorade, which help replenish electrolytes as well as water. It's the lone runner or cyclist, left to his or her own devices, who is more susceptible, first by overindulging in water before the event and then continuing to drink lots of water without replenishing the electrolytes lost to sweat.
Especially at risk are smaller, slower runners, according to Burfoot. "They don't sweat as much as the other runners, so they need less water. And because they're running slower, they have more opportunity to stop at the water stations." Burfoot advises runners to drink only about 14 to 28 ounces — about a cup of water every 20 minutes — during competition. And even then, adds Burfoot, "the rule is to drink only when you feel moderately thirsty."
If you've been running a couple of hours, switch to a sports drink, or include a salty snack, such as pretzels or chips, to replenish the salt in your system. Williams also advises not to take any pain relievers that contain ibuprofen before or during the race, as it may interfere with your kidneys' ability to excrete water.
How much water is enough? That begs the question for those of us who don't compete in marathons or Ironman competitions: How much water do you really need to stay healthy?
Many health experts recommend drinking eight to 12 eight-ounce glasses of water or other fluid each day. Others say that amount is too arbitrary — your thirst is your best indicator of how much water to drink, if you're reasonably healthy and not affected by diabetes or other conditions that may leave you with a ravenous thirst.
"I know people in their 90s who have drunk only a glass or two of water a day for years, and they're perfectly fine," Tirandaz said.
Nighthawkk
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I consume at least half a gallon when training regularly, but upwards of a gallon (4 litres) when "on"- so I voted 3-5. I have noticed that urine is much darker on dbol and tren, so I'll drink even more to compensate.
Nighthawkk
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Where is that article from?
dullboy
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karachi183
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1.5-4 liters on and off
swordfish151
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1 gallon a day for sure...minimum...but shoot for 1.5 gals
