18 years old help

[Daniel256]

Hey guys
My friend who's not into forums or anything online is in a situation so I told him I'd post a thread about he's situation and let him know the feedback and best option for him is.

So basically, he started a cycle and is currently in the 12'th week of the cycle, which is the last. He already done he's second last pin on Monday and will do he's last pin tomorrow (Thursday). After Thursday's pin, he will then be finished the 12 week cycle.

Week 1-12
Test E (500mg) (Monday-Friday pin)
Arimidex Eod 0.5mg

He's cousin was monitoring him and pinning him throughout the cycle. He's told me he's cousin was basically just making sure he's estrogen wasn't too high or too low throughout the cycle by altering arimidex doses. He says he hasn't gotten any side effects of low or high estrogen throughout the cycle.

The point of this thread is, what is the best PCT for him? He's cousins got clomid, nolvadex and HCG in bulk for some reason, so is there any dosage of these that could help with the recovery?

A few questions he's asked:
Do you think he's done permanent damage to he's hormonal system?
Has he closed he's growth plates?
Can he recover fully from this cycle?


Thanks, will tell him everything posted. Any feedback is appreciated.

 

[muskate]

He is going to need to run a very good PCT protocol to ensure proper recovery. HCG is NOT a good idea. HCG is some nasty stuff. It actually raises estrogen levels and often is what CAUSES the gyno people experience from their cycle. Read this: Did you know HCG is dangerous? - Evolutionary.org

Have him run the perfect PCT exactly as it is laid out here: The Perfect Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) - Evolutionary.org

You can order everything you need for the PCT protocol from ag-guys.com, n2bm.com and sarms1.com.

 

[muskate]

He is going to need to run a very good PCT protocol to ensure proper recovery. HCG is NOT a good idea. HCG is some nasty stuff. It actually raises estrogen levels and often is what CAUSES the gyno people experience from their cycle. Read this: Did you know HCG is dangerous? - Evolutionary.org

Have him run the perfect PCT exactly as it is laid out here: The Perfect Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) - Evolutionary.org

You can order everything you need for the PCT protocol from ag-guys.com, n2bm.com and sarms1.com.

 

[stevesmi]

muskate covered what he should do, so let me answer your other questions.

basically when you run steroids at such a young age you interfere with your bodies hormonal changes. your pituitary glands get shut down for 20-25 weeks basically in your friends situation.. yes he has done permanent damage, how much we do not know. tell him to run blood work 6 months from now to see where his levels are. hopefully his LH and FSH will show up strong .. i'm under the assumption that he never ran blood work in the first place. he should not touch hormones till he is 25

these types of threads are the problem with the bostin Lloyd influence. they fuck up a lot of guys reproductive systems.. steroids won't kill ya, but they damn well can fuck up your hormones permanently. happens all the time. we got plenty of dudes on here in their 20's who can't get their dicks up without Viagra and who need to inject themselves in the ass for life cause they fucked with this shit at a young age.

the dirty secret is you don't even understand how your body works till you are in your 30's.. all these teens running steroids have no clue how to train or diet, impossible to know at that age, you haven't even grown hair on your balls yet and you want to use steroids?!

 

[j_oel]

muskate covered what he should do, so let me answer your other questions.

basically when you run steroids at such a young age you interfere with your bodies hormonal changes. your pituitary glands get shut down for 20-25 weeks basically in your friends situation.. yes he has done permanent damage, how much we do not know. tell him to run blood work 6 months from now to see where his levels are. hopefully his LH and FSH will show up strong .. i'm under the assumption that he never ran blood work in the first place. he should not touch hormones till he is 25

these types of threads are the problem with the bostin Lloyd influence. they fuck up a lot of guys reproductive systems.. steroids won't kill ya, but they damn well can fuck up your hormones permanently. happens all the time. we got plenty of dudes on here in their 20's who can't get their dicks up without Viagra and who need to inject themselves in the ass for life cause they fucked with this shit at a young age.

the dirty secret is you don't even understand how your body works till you are in your 30's.. all these teens running steroids have no clue how to train or diet, impossible to know at that age, you haven't even grown hair on your balls yet and you want to use steroids?!

Why do you always use Bostin Loyd as the poster boy for teenagers using gear? Just because he's out spoken on shut people are scared to talk about doesn't team he's promoting steroid use. Each and own to their own decision.

And that's an extremely stupid and vage thing to say "you don't know your body till you're 30 and teens using gear have No clue on diet and training" how, the fuck, is it impossible to know at a teenagers age how to diet and train properly????? I myself have got 30lbs heavier naturally with PROPER diet and PROPER training, dieted down as a natural all by myself, after being admitted to trt from a car crash in a year using subsequent small cycles have added 57lbs and leaner, all through proper diet and training that I've accumulated through research, trial and error. Diet and training knowledge doesn't come form age, it comes from proper research trial and error. There's plenty of people over 30 around these boards who give clueless bro science advise or hop on steroids without s clue on what they're doing. knowledge doesn't have an age on it, invest in proper research, take advice from people who know what they're talking about. Just because you're older doesn't make you a smarter person with diet or training. Half of the pros these days started steroids when they were 16-18 IT HAPPENS and you're just ignorant if you think a young mind can't be of knowledge because they aren't 30, wtf does that even mean.

8 months natural training:

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1.5 year natty training:

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1 year old steroid use:

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Are you going to diminish that too?

 

[mercury15]

when I was 18 did think about steroids but good training and diet

 

[stevesmi]

Why do you always use Bostin Loyd as the poster boy for teenagers using gear? Just because he's out spoken on shut people are scared to talk about doesn't team he's promoting steroid use. Each and own to their own decision.

And that's an extremely stupid and vage thing to say "you don't know your body till you're 30 and teens using gear have No clue on diet and training" how, the fuck, is it impossible to know at a teenagers age how to diet and train properly????? I myself have got 30lbs heavier naturally with PROPER diet and PROPER training, dieted down as a natural all by myself, after being admitted to trt from a car crash in a year using subsequent small cycles have added 57lbs and leaner, all through proper diet and training that I've accumulated through research, trial and error. Diet and training knowledge doesn't come form age, it comes from proper research trial and error. There's plenty of people over 30 around these boards who give clueless bro science advise or hop on steroids without s clue on what they're doing. knowledge doesn't have an age on it, invest in proper research, take advice from people who know what they're talking about. Just because you're older doesn't make you a smarter person with diet or training. Half of the pros these days started steroids when they were 16-18 IT HAPPENS and you're just ignorant if you think a young mind can't be of knowledge because they aren't 30, wtf does that even mean.

8 months natural training:

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1.5 year natty training:

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1 year old steroid use:

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Are you going to diminish that too?

why don't we re-visit this thread in 10 years and you tell me if you are smarter then you are today and have more knowledge. You forget i was your age at one point, and yes like you I thought life finished at 25. WRONG! life starts at 25. the difference is did you acquire education and skills while young to benefit as an adult? I sure hope you do.

i actually think as a teen you should be doing a 5X5 type of program. building a proper base, building muscle memory, building strength. then as an adult you will benefit from all that. i see too many teens curling and doing isolation movements

the main problem with your age group is that you are more inclined to listen to friends then parents/teachers. thats why you make tons of mistakes. although not every adult will give you sound advice, i guarantee you that your friends are going to steer you wrong most of the time.

bottom line is this: every time you walk into the gym you should learn more about yourself, also your body is constantly changing. maybe right now you are g2g with dairy, but in another 5 years you will not be able to digest it at all. so you better be learning about yourself quickly and learning what foods agree with you and don't etc. lots of people don't even figure out they have gluten allergies till they are well into their 30's. I never said you couldn't be knowledgeable when young, i said as you get older your knowledge should improve.. assuming of course you stick to the lifestyle. trust me in another 10 years you will look back and say "man i know so much more today"

 

[RADAR]

Just wait until you're my age, i wish i knew in my 20's what i know now.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Why do you always use Bostin Loyd as the poster boy for teenagers using gear? Just because he's out spoken on shut people are scared to talk about doesn't team he's promoting steroid use. Each and own to their own decision.

And that's an extremely stupid and vage thing to say "you don't know your body till you're 30 and teens using gear have No clue on diet and training" how, the fuck, is it impossible to know at a teenagers age how to diet and train properly????? I myself have got 30lbs heavier naturally with PROPER diet and PROPER training, dieted down as a natural all by myself, after being admitted to trt from a car crash in a year using subsequent small cycles have added 57lbs and leaner, all through proper diet and training that I've accumulated through research, trial and error. Diet and training knowledge doesn't come form age, it comes from proper research trial and error. There's plenty of people over 30 around these boards who give clueless bro science advise or hop on steroids without s clue on what they're doing. knowledge doesn't have an age on it, invest in proper research, take advice from people who know what they're talking about. Just because you're older doesn't make you a smarter person with diet or training. Half of the pros these days started steroids when they were 16-18 IT HAPPENS and you're just ignorant if you think a young mind can't be of knowledge because they aren't 30, wtf does that even mean.

8 months natural training:

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1.5 year natty training:

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1 year old steroid use:

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Are you going to diminish that too?

Young guys think they're being told what to do when advised not to use steroids. That isn't it at all. It's just the best advice in regard to the long term plan. I know...at 18, that concept is hard to grasp. It takes an especially intelligent person.

And not for nothin' bro, but I think you looked better natty. You're bigger now, yeah, but you look smoother. Less dense. You lost your lines. You could have just upped the protein and gotten the same result -- with damaging your reproductive system.

 

[wootoom]

Read the damn rules.