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big_bad_buff
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posted January 31, 2000 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_bad_buff   Click Here to Email big_bad_buff     Edit/Delete Message

i'v been hitting my calves pretty hard for about 6 or 7 months now, they wont grow, there getting ripped but no muscle is being gained.

but the rest of my body works the oposite, it gets bigger but doesnt get ripped unless i diet....are my calves broken or what?

i can put so much weight on when i'm doing calves that my back will start hurting.

i need a new kick ass workout routine for my calves. any advice?

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Fe3
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posted January 31, 2000 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fe3   Click Here to Email Fe3     Edit/Delete Message
Try raising your reps. About 25-30 reps.
Seated calf raise with toes pointed outward.Squeeze at the top, and never mind about going all the way down, half range of motion squeeze at the top.
Also sitting like a catcher in baseball, but legs together, up and down on your toes, but hold onto something for balance. 25-30 reps,too.

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scourge
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posted January 31, 2000 05:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Calves are essentially what keeps us standing "on balance" all day long. As such hitting them with a high rep medium weight routine will yield best results.

And doing them a bit more often than others has helped me a great deal. On my leg day I do calve raises in between every set of each movement, then do a calve set at the end.

Its one of the hardest areas to develop, so keep at it

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Fe3
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posted January 31, 2000 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fe3   Click Here to Email Fe3     Edit/Delete Message
Ever think about Synthol?

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chesty
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posted January 31, 2000 06:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Remember, your legs are a very high volume muscle group. You stand on them you walk with them, you squat with them. Just about everything we do we use are legs. Have you ever wondered why legs calves in particular are hard to build and our upper body isn't?

Well, that is because we use are upper body to do much less work, therefore it responds to any stimulation we give it. Our legs however, require the most stimulation due to there frequent every day use. Therefore, it takes more work to get similar results as the rest of the body. With that philosphy in mind....

chesty

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Mr. T
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posted January 31, 2000 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. T     Edit/Delete Message
High reps works best for me. When I go heavy they won't grow. Hold the last rep on your tippy toes until in feels like they are on fire. Mixing it up works good to: donkey raise, sitting, then standing. Just remember to keep them streched. One time I worked calves so hard I was laid up for three days because I could'nt walk. Everytime I got on my feet they charlie horsed.

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Big Brother Val
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posted January 31, 2000 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big Brother Val   Click Here to Email Big Brother Val     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone who lifts calves knows they burn like no other, and hurt like a son of a bitch the next couple of days... in fact... mine hurt right now. My calves are totally bald from rubbing off on my pants, and covered with stretch marks (unfortunately), and I basically do little heavy work. I'll do 'em standing, start with around 120 lbs and hit 12 reps nice and slow to get the blood going. And make 40 lb. jumps until I can no longer get 8 reps clean. Then I'll drop the weight again, and change my foot position. Toes in, out, and neutral. On toes in I put on around 200 depending on the level of exhaustion and do 10 reps, then drop by 20 lbs with no rest in between sets, change my foot position to toes out and do another ten, drop 20 with no rest, neutral position, 10 more reps. It hurst like a bitch bigtime, and I do that series twice at the end. But it's really sparked a lot of growth in my calves. It's really helped me put a sweep on the outside, and I finish with either bent-legged standing, or seated raises for the soleus.

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Lee wanna B
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posted January 31, 2000 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lee wanna B     Edit/Delete Message
Bro, make sure that you go thru a complete range of motion with calves. Heels down as far as they can go and then up as far as they can go. Most probs with calves are just that, not a full enough range of motion. Guys all the time bitch about their calves. I watch them and its no wonder why they never grow. They only do a quarter or half of the movement. Half movements won't benefit calves. Try some high reps and also low reps too. Once you master the movement, then you can put on some serious weight. You have to really push them too. They are probably one of the hardest muscles to make grow because you are always walking on them. Also try to hold the top position for a second or two and really squeeze the shit out of them. I would do around 12 sets total for calves. 3 exercises 4 sets each. Try calves 2 times a week. You can split it and do 1 exercise on day and the other 2 the other day. Make sure you warm them up real good with lighter weight and high reps. Also stretch between every set. Hope this helps some.

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E2
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posted January 31, 2000 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Try hitting them twice a day on the day that you train them, morning and night, they'll die. As well point your toes in out and straight, changing throughout the set it's a killer

E2

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macrophage69alpha
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posted January 31, 2000 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
unfortunately, all that advice will probably do you little- good calves are genetic- if you are predisposed to have big ones then good for you otherwise you are going to either use synthol,pgf, get implants, or just learn to deal with it and do the best you can with what your genetic code gave you.

BTW- those are good suggestions as far as workout goes I am just trying to prepare you for the probable results which are not much. of course not much is better than nothing.

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MP

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DreamingBig
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posted February 01, 2000 02:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DreamingBig   Click Here to Email DreamingBig     Edit/Delete Message
Any of the workouts stated above and using PGF2a (just do your homework on it first). Inject the PGF2a into the calf muscles or any other that is lagging behind (barring some areas).

DreamingBig

[This message has been edited by DreamingBig (edited February 01, 2000).]

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Rohan
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posted February 01, 2000 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rohan   Click Here to Email Rohan     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 6857257
Here's Patrick Kraak's great calf-blasting program to blow some awesome size and shape into those hard to respond calves.

"Below I have a Calf training program, which will make even the "no calves at all" people add a few inches!

Here's how it works:
I usually train my calves every Tuesday and Friday. But sometimes you have a grow-stop [training plateau] which seems to last forever. That is the moment I fall back on
this schedule. But it will hurt like hell! I use it only once and a while, when I really need to.

If you follow this program for 6 weeks, you will not be able to walk normal for that time. But my calves grew in 6 weeks 2 cm. (I'm sorry in Holland we count in
Centimeters).

Tuesday:
First warm up your calves with only some calf-raises on the stairs or something for 2 x 20 reps with only your bodyweight.

Then you go to the standing calf-raise machine. And you put the weight on 30kg. (about one third of the weight you can do 15 reps max with). And you start training
rep after rep, it will burn like hell but you keep continuing till you have done 100 reps.

At a point (in my case at about 50 reps) you will not be able to break through the pain anymore.

Then just lower your calves and stretch for about 10 seconds. And continue after that, you might do another 20 reps before you stretch again for 10 seconds. When you reach the 100, your calves will be pumped like you
never trained before.

Then wait for 3 or 4 minutes (do a lot of stretching at that time, you will need it) and than do 3 sets of seated calf raise for about 20 reps each. And stretch after that once more!

Friday :
I hope the pain has decreased a bit; if not you might skip this training and do it one workout later.

This training will not be as painful as the other one!

First you do toe-presses on the leg press, your reps should be 20, 10, 8, 6 . . . With real heavy weight!

Power is the key-word here!

Then you go to the standing calf raise and go for 20 reps with normal weight first. Then you go real heavy for 6 reps. Than a bit lighter for 15 reps and then heavy again for 8 reps.

Then, as a desert you do some stretching and finish it all off with one set till failure, doing calf raises just with your bodyweight on the stairs (one leg at the time!). Stretch again and enjoy the pain!

If you do this for about 6 weeks, and then fall back to your old program, you'll have calves bigger than they ever were! Try it, it works.

(I would never recommend this Program to a beginner or intermediate!)

-So there you have it - and the Pgf2 also works wonders!

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