Re: Everyone Thinking of Home Chemistry

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: : : It seems like the hot topic at the moment is : making your own gear. Let me be the first to say : that this is a very dangerous proposition. In all : honesty, most of you don't have the education or : knowledge to perform such complex "experiments". Even my friends in third year biochemistry at UWO don't have the knowledge to properly make such complex pharmacueticals without some help. And even if you understood how to correctly make these compounds, you need a sterile lab to ensure your safety. C'mon people, you're going to ingest or shoot this stuff into your body. You are now on the same level as a heroin junky cooking his shit up on a spoon with a zippo and a gob of spit ready to borrow a stick from his buddy Felix to stick it. There is no way you can reproduce the necessary sterile environment required to produce steroids in your kitchen. I have heard of guys getting major side effects from home made junk. Everything from hives to boils to fevers. If you've ever seen an abcess cut out of someone's ass or quad you wouldn't even consider trying this. : So get over the idea. I have access to fully : equipped unviversity labs and I won't risk it. : Don't be stupid and try this. : : Your right--some reactions are quite complex : and take quite a bit of knowledge but I can : assure you there are a few simple reactions that : are easy. We need to look for what is known as : a total synthesis which means you don't get : many side reaction and alternative products. : Gee, and here I thought "total synthesis" meant : something *entirely* different... : : I believe the conversion of DHEA into : methylandrostenediol is one of these. : Methylandrostenediol is a 17 alpha : alkylated steroid and thus can be taken orally : to get a substantial. I would never recommend : injecting with a home brew. Your right again-- : this is stupid and HIGHLY dangerous. IF YOU : MAKE A HOME BREW--ONLY INGEST! PERIOD! If I : post how any of this is done, I will first try : it and do a melting Point analysis to test : purity/actual compound. : : Keep up the fight! : : Unique : OK boys. : First dissolve your DHEA into methanol. : Your first problem is that DHEA is "dehydroepi- : androsterone." You must bubble hydrogen gas : through the methanol at a temperature of -10 : degrees centigrade to hydrogenate the DHEA. : Next, you must add the 17-alkyl substituent. : You need alkali to do this. Sodium hydroxide : will do the trick. : You must also get a keto group at -3. Evaporate : the methanol and add methyl ethyl ketone. Heat : to 40 degrees centigrade for one hour. You will : need a fume hood. : Co-enzyme Q-10 is needed to catalyze the final : step. After evaporating the MEK, dissolve the : product of the previous step into 99% ethanol : and add 10 grams of CoQ-10 per 1 gram DHEA, and : also add 0.35 grams L-selectride per 1 gram : DHEA. React at reflux for 30 minutes. : Distill the product, and there you are. : : -- Robert

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